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Silly Warrior · Nov 25, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42

If you spend some time around Guru, you find many posts and threads of people, saying how bored they are getting with the game. I thought about this and wondered how Anet might keep their player base from getting bored.

The Idea: Anet pays (or simply allows) 3rd party independant companys to update areas like Tyria and Cantha, with new content such as quests, missions, items, areas, armors, anything you could imagine.

Now you may start thinking, how could Anet allow people to update their game, it has to be story based, and we wouldn't want our wonderful game ruined would we? The guild wars community wouldn't want corrupt quests, missions and areas that didn't tie into the storyline.

So now, without further adue.....

How it could work: Anet could provide independant companys, and/or seperate people a program to edit the game. The game template, or whatever you would want to call it, would be completetly offline, and allow you to make changes to the game, with a program of some sort, perhaps even the one they use, to make the game you wanted.

For Example: Suppose Bob downloads the GW software editior program, with all the features of the game, minus the fact he can't play it online. Bob wants to make a quest in Kryta, and so Bob does. Bob enjoys the quest alot, and it ties into the storyline, so Bob sends his quest idea into Arenanet, so Arenanet simply says yes/no, and all they do is update the area. If they say yes, its a new quest in Tyria to do, and Anet doesn't have to pay anyone to make the quest.So, Bob does all the work. Of course, Bob doesn't care about the money, because he made a quest in the game and thats more than enough reward for Bob.

Or, perhaps Anet could hire very small, independant companys to work on areas of the game, for a small fee, so they could focus on New Campaigns while this small 3rd party company worked on new quests, and areas for the previous campaigns.

Either way... who wouldn't want to make a quest for everyone to see?

The cost for us: Now I seriously doubt anyones going to pay 5 dollers a month for quests done by users/player community. I do however believe that people wouldn't mind paying 5 dollers a month for streaming new content into Tyria, Cantha, and soon to be Elona. The content would connect the storylines, grow and expand the game and its people who play it, and make the game overall better if done correctly.

In Conclusion: Anet's staff knows it cannot support constantly streaming new content, so this would be the solution. It could be half and half, maybe 2 or 3 independant companies to update areas approved by anet, and user made quests/items and soforth. Of course Anet wouldn't pay user made quests, but I'm sure they would jug some money for a huge update to Tyria, if done correctly.

And with this, please begin the flaming/praise.

Tide to Go · Nov 25, 2006, 04:58 AM // 04:58

anything dealing with the storyline no way no one should be allowed to update it as in add more parts to it. but quest weapons skills armor stuff like that that would be a pretty cool thing to see people creat

Sasuke The Betrayer · Nov 25, 2006, 05:05 AM // 05:05

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Originally Posted by Tide to Go

anything dealing with the storyline no way no one should be allowed to update it as in add more parts to it. but quest weapons skills armor stuff like that that would be a pretty cool thing to see people creat

Sure would be, some of the art shown in guru and the design your own weapon contests in guild wars are amazing. Would like mroe to be implemented... although making a program to edit guild wars, anet probably wouldn't do this idea b/c you have all the information needed to create Guild Wars. Think of the things people could do with that.

Silly Warrior · Nov 25, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

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Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer

Sure would be, some of the art shown in guru and the design your own weapon contests in guild wars are amazing. Would like mroe to be implemented... although making a program to edit guild wars, anet probably wouldn't do this idea b/c you have all the information needed to create Guild Wars. Think of the things people could do with that.

Guild Wars is copywrited and is already a game, so I dont think that would be a problem.

And yeah, its just a rough a idea, maybe a quest program could be made for offline, but either way, I don't think it would be a problem to give it out.

Tide to Go · Nov 25, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

silly warrior plz make a thread the lets people express what they would do with this program it would be fun to mess around with

Kakumei · Nov 25, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

The legal ramifications of this idea are staggering.

Tyggen · Nov 25, 2006, 11:03 AM // 11:03

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

The legal ramifications of this idea are staggering.

...which is why Gaile said a while back they don't accept suggestions on e-mail because then in a few years someone might say "Hey! That was my idea! Gimme money!" or something along those lines.

MithranArkanere · Nov 25, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Yeah, any suggestion we are making here will be free for them to add.

The deal is this: they (may) add what we sugggest, and we do not take money for it. We get our idea and the game, and they get an idea to add.

This could be the same. Making quests with that program and sending them to Anet, they would add the ones they fell more apropiate.

It could even be a contests of some sorts.

Antheus · Nov 25, 2006, 02:50 PM // 14:50

It doesn't sell. Existing players already have the game, new players won't know.

And the legal issues with user created content, moderation and administration, not to mention playtesting and supporting such content costs several times more than if they do it themself.

It's not commercially viable to do that, or it would have been included from the start.

Silly Warrior · Nov 25, 2006, 05:14 PM // 17:14

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Yeah, any suggestion we are making here will be free for them to add.

The deal is this: they (may) add what we sugggest, and we do not take money for it. We get our idea and the game, and they get an idea to add.

This could be the same. Making quests with that program and sending them to Anet, they would add the ones they fell more apropiate.

It could even be a contests of some sorts.

Exactly, even if all the users came up with the ideas, there would some type of agreement or thing, that said that whatever you came up with Anet could use. The reward for you however would be to have a quest in-game, which would be pretty cool.

As far as someone shouting the idea was theres, it wouldn't matter, they had already accepted the agreement that whatever they came up with, Anet could use. Like the EULA when you play the game.

As far as costing Anet more, I don't think so. All they would have to do would be look at the quests and press submit, or something along those lines. It literally all depends on what the program/s could do.

And like I said, 3rd parties, I'm sure there are dozens of small 3rd party companies willing to take a paycheck to make new areas of the game, and it would allow the Anet staff to continue working on current campaigns while these companies worked on different areas. But of course, everything would have to be approved by Anet to be put into the game.

There could even be a small division similar to the special events group, who constantly looked and checked over 3rd party projects and smaller free quest things done by players. Its totally viable.

Some of the 3rd party areas could even be sold in the online store, for say 5 dollers an area, like an area similar to Sorrows.

African War Lord · Nov 25, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

If I went back to tyria and saw a new quest, I wouldn't do it. If anything, new pvp arena's should be added that have 1on1, 2on2, and free for all battles. No quests or missions that's just another half hour of time wasted.

Tide to Go · Nov 25, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41

well....if it gives a better chance with my idea getting in the game SURE I will be alright with it.Im here to help!!!

gel · Nov 28, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

a similar thing is done with warcraft 3 & that game is a hit.

more variety is key

Faer · Nov 28, 2006, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Am I the only one who noticed the mention to a monthly fee in the original post...?

Anyway, it's not such a hot idea because, as has been stated, then individuals could potentially get every bit of coding in the game and do many illegal things with it - such as set up private servers and devastate ArenaNet's money flow from the series. There are of course other reasons, but that one is large enough to stand by itself.

Sniper Corps · Nov 28, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

I Too noticed the 5$ dollar thing. I like my GW free and i want to keep it that way.(Im a Cheap person)

=HT=Ingram · Nov 28, 2006, 04:42 PM // 16:42

there was a proposal on the table a LONG time ago for Custom quests to be posted in each guilds Hall someplace. these quest would have rewards from the guild leaders or officers selection of inventory, and be unavailable to all members and guests of the guild; Now Alliance...

The problem was how to set rewards, and how to post custom quests in the Guild Hall for the members to find them. we have no customizable npc in the hall so this would also be required...

We got part way there with Guild Hall services, but the NPC for such a thing was never implemented.

Required parts to make such things would be some kind of Guild storage system to hold rewards for quests. Or a guild treasury to hold rewards.

A Custom Quest Scribe NPC (For writing them and issuing Objectives)

And a custom Quest Board for posting in your Hall for everyone in the alliance to see. (For picking up quests to do)

The rewards would have to have some limit as with anything... And the difficulty and objectives would have to be something attainable for sure.

In the end our guild only posted a few quests and just on our gaming forums for our members to do for fun. I do highly recommend interested people just drafting up some creative quests and posting them in your fan sites just for fun. Our guild had 1 custom quest picked up by anet and refined a little for actual implementation. (Majesty's Rest Undead Invasion). So you never know when someone may see your idea and go ahead and put it into the game. Just make sure it makes sense, AND My objective is always to make a quest that takes the player someplace they might not have a reason to go to otherwise...

The quests that takes players into Prophecies from Nightfall via Crystal Overlook are very Popular. There are some fan based ones that are equally as cool. I love things that cross chapters to accomplish as custom quests...

I still Wish there was Map points on old maps that could be accessed ONLY by people that own all chapters. IE having quests that takes you to unique places in Tyria or Cantha from Nightfall that would in the end yield a new area on those maps as well. As a reward for owning them all I mean...

I mean after all (******) at the end of the game says the portal will take you anywhere you wish to go right?
I wanted to go to the ruins of Orr. lol

[EDIT](didn't want to spoil the surprise by reviling who she is.)